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lakeside #29

04-30-2009, 04:29 PM

Thanks Mitch, for posting this photo of my old #93. This is one of the least remembered cars at Lakeside. I bought this car in 1972 from Clarence Krieger. It had been one of Larry Dechant's old cars from the mid 60's. The engine was built by Larry Dechant and a real screamer, but the car wasn't up to it. Neither Jim nor I had any experience with a 4 springer and that caused us problems all year.

Jim flipped the car July 4, 1973 which was captured in a photo that seemed to get in the program every year thereafter. Jim quit driving race cars shortley after that. Roy Jackson timed it in for me one week and Rick Cook drive it the next week end. The car was crashed in hot laps in a collision with Don Carelli.

Gene and Doug Plue introduced me to Ed Mailo and I put him in the car. Figure 8 star Terry Boyle, his crew chief Mike Colitti and I rebuilt the car that winter. I got the 3 window couple body from Clarence Krieger and Terry painted it yellow-orange. Mike Young lettered it #29 at Ed's request. Ed wanted to make sure the number had a 9 in it, and also wanted red on the car. So the numbers were red, as were the wheels at the first of the year. It was the perfict match. Ed won 3 trophy dashes and 2 main events in that car in 1974. We finished the year 4th in owner points and 5th in driver points. My current car #29 could and should be concedered a tribute to Ed Mailo. Cancer took him in about 1980.

Believe it or not, I had a guy all but call me a lier about my old cars. Trust me, I really was there. This isn't made up.Thank you for showing proof that I didn't lie.

Chris Ertler #29 Modified
Former CARC President,
Former CARC Historian and
Life Time Member

Mitch G.

04-30-2009, 05:57 PM

Was that Rick Cook, the flat track motorcycle racer? do you have any color photo's of those old coupes? I vaguely remember the #93 car, but I spent most my nights at the midgets, but always bought a program when I went to a CARC show, I love those coupes. Thanks for posting your personal history behind that photo, really brings it to life!

lakeside #29

05-01-2009, 12:38 PM

Mitch, you have a great memory. Yes, it was Rick Cook the motorcycle racer. At the time we both worked for Gene Plue. Rick had bought a midget from Mike Dire and wanted to get some seat time at Lakeside. After getting put in the wall he kind of re-thought the whole car racing thing.

As a motorcycle racer Rick was one of the best in the area. He was an AMA Nation Junior and only lacked a few points from getting his National Expert license.

I know I have color photos of the car. Will have to see about getting them posted.

Thanks a lot.
Chris Ertler

Jerry Lee

05-01-2009, 01:09 PM

Hey Chris! Good to have you on here with some insight. Loved hanging out at your garage back in the day listening to stories and fiddling around with the #29 Modified.

Thanks to Chris Ertler I was the CARC track announcer for those Friday night race shows at the old Second Creek Raceway through the mid-'90's.

Hope you and Peg are doing well.

--J.L.M.

superstroke

05-02-2009, 03:23 PM

Also in this picture, Clarence Kreigers #83, and if you look to the far left corner, you will see "Cyclopse". Cyclopse was the name given to the 194? International car hauler by Bob and Jim Brown. More details on this car hauler can be found in the "stock car" forum under Bob and Jim Browns Seventy Seven X.

Rick Losh
Superstroke

lakeside #29

05-03-2009, 04:27 PM

Hi Superstroke,
I haven't looked at that photo closely in a long time. The "Old Binder" in the background was still Fritz's at the time and he was hauling the Comet late model. It's funny, I know own the Clarence Krieger #83 as #29. The car behind it is a '32 Ford couple #15, that was owened by Bill Backman. I sold it to him, and yes, that's Scot and Jacks big brother. The car was my #48D.
The car behind Bill's is the Model A #72 of Chuck Ryder.

Rapid 30..When Sam Sauer set the track record in 1967, the track had just been paved. You have to wonder if that car had been out on the wide tires, that you and I got to run later, how quick it would have been. He was giving up cubic inches to the Fords. Ralph Young was a genious.

Chris

carc7

07-13-2009, 09:51 PM

I remember the opening night of the 1967 Lakeside season very well. Heading into the evening, the track record was 13.02, owned by Billy Vaughan, in Les Kelly's #85. Reed Walker had told the crowd that they could expect big things that night, because in practice some guys were really hauling! Billy was the first to officially break into the 12's, with a 12.96. A few minutes later, Fritz Wilson came out with Bob McDowell's car and lowered it to 12.92. We Sammy Sauer fans were sweating it! But Sam came out, almost last (which he usually preferred, so he could see how hard he had to push) and lowered it finally to the 12.84, where it stayed for 9 years! This was the single-carbureted Plymouth straight 6. I do remember that over that summer, the top 3 cars (Sauer's #60, Fritz' #14, and Don Wilson's #19) were all torn down about 3 times! Always found legal, though. We went home shivering, because it was late April and it was damn COLD!

superstroke

07-14-2009, 06:51 AM

Here are some other photos of Chris Ertlers Lakeside modifieds. Chris, I think the reason your cars were not remembered is the fact that the attendance during those years at Lakeside had fallen off from years before. People do not remember that I raced there either, if only for four years. Ask people about Dave Hayden, and sure, they heard about him. I do not even think that Hayden raced for two years..dunno, can't remember. The late 70's through about 85 were forgettable years for Lakeside Speedway fans, but some of the most remembered for myself.

superstroke

07-14-2009, 07:22 AM

Here are some photos from Chris Ertlers collection featuring Mr. Ertlers fabulous modified #29 from when Ed Mailo was crankin the wheel. I'll let Chris tell the details:

superstroke

07-14-2009, 07:26 AM

More pictures from Chris Ertler, this time from when Butch Wallace was the #29's chaffeur. Again, I will let Chris give the details:

Mitch G.

07-14-2009, 08:01 AM

Rick, great photo's of Chris's coupe, those 2 middle shots (of the #93) are exactly how I remember that car looking, and that was my favorite era of CARC. I never liked wings, so being a hard core midget guy, I kinda lost interest, although would still attend several coupe shows a year, and I still love those coupes today. Chris, Rick, another reason some of those "Forgotten years" occurred may have been that a lot of fans our age started doing our own thing. I'd been going to Lakeside since I was 6 weeks old, that would be August of 1960, by 1978 I was on a midget pit crew and by 82 was owning and driving my own midget so that's where all my attention went. Now looking back at all this history makes me wish I'd have taken the time to spend more Sunday nights at Lakeside before it closed. Same goes for Englewood, I couldn't tell you much of all that happened at Englewood the last couple years it was open, too wrapped up in midgets, sprints and dirt track racing.

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 02:14 PM

Rick,
I can't thank you enough for posting these photes on this sight. I'm indebted to you for doing this. I was introduced to a guy a few years ago who made me feel like a liar when I recounted my early cars to him.

That period at Lakesede was pretty tough because we had drivers retire or move on to Englewood or other tracks with late models. We put on a hell of a show at Lakeside and I'm proud to say I was part of it. We really were there and I hope this is visual proof.

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 02:32 PM

In the first set of photo's the number 29 is the 1984 edition. Butch Wallace was pretty much unstoppable that year. We won the Limited Modified Championship, and Best Looking Car. This car was built completely in my garage. Was painted by Dakota Auto Body and lettered by "Superstroke" Mr. Rick Losh, Photo is by Mike Colitti.

The #93 car is from 1973. It is a 1931 Chevy that was originally owned by Larry DeChant. I bought the car from Clarence Krieger. We built the car in Jim Moore's garage and he drove it. A lot of people thought it was Jim's car, but it wasn't. I had all the money in it. It had a Larry DeChant engine. It was painted Camaro Gold by Vic "Yuag" Cameron and lettered by Mike Young. The chrome was from Mallow Plating Works. Gary Shaffer set up the rear end which I bought from Roy Jackson. Jim and I narrowed that in his garage. Jim retired from racing a couple weeks after rolling the car. The car was again wrecked after that and was parked for the rest of the year.

The #48 blue and white car is from late in the 1972 season. It was my one and only '32 Ford. Jim "Lunchmeat" Moore drove it. We didn't do very well that year but the car was never torn up and we learned an awfull lot.

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 02:50 PM

In the second set of photo's, from 1974 is my 1931 Chevy 3 window coupe. The pictures were taken in the alley behind Terry Boyle's house getting ready to go to the track for the first time. This car was my #93 rebuilt with a new body that was purchased from Clarence Krieger. I spent 2 nights removing the wood structure from it. The body never had any body work or rust. I was very lucky to get a driver of Ed Mailo's tallent to drive it.

The frame was broken at the front and Chuck Kacin didn't have the 220v electricty in his garage, where I stored it, so Terry Boyle gas welded it temporarily. We flat towed it to Terry's garage for repairs. On the way over the tow chain kept falling off so after about the third time Chuck told me, "I'm going to follow you for awhile". and I drove it several blocks to Terry's garage. Terry Boyle, Mike Colitti, and I planned it out and Terry made it happen. I don't think Ed was too excited about a dumb kid and a couple of figure 8 guys redoing the car but after he drove it he was pretty happy with it. Terry was a certified welder and could build anything. #29 was hooked up from the beginning. It was Cal at West Side Auto Body that molded the sun visor and then painted it, but when Ed dropped the body off, none of us particulary liked the color. I saw a Chevy Vega in traffic the next day that was incredibly bright and I decided that was the color for Terry to repaint it. Mike Young lettered and pinstriped it. Louie Walker took car of the engine most of the year. We even had Ralph Young help us one night.

The next photo shows the aftermath of hitting the wall coming out of turn 2 at Lakeside. Jimmy Billen streightened the frame in one night.

The last photo shows Ed Mailo and Butch Snow in what was probably a Trophy Dash in 1974.

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 02:58 PM

The third set of photos are from 1984. The first one shows Butch Wallace and the lovely Donna Saxton after winning a main event.

The next photo shows the #29L on the race track.

The next photo shows our relief driver Roy Jackson after winning a Main Event. He filled in for Butch 4 times that year and won a main each night. Roy is Butch's brother-in-law.

The last photo shows Mr Superstroke (Rick Losh) caught in the act of lettering the car just before the Saber's show in 1984.

Thank you again Rick, I am grateful to you for taking the time to scan these photos and putting the up here. You are a hell of a guy.

Chris Ertler

rapid30

07-14-2009, 02:59 PM

The #29 3 window of Ertler's became my #16 in 81 & 82
I might add that Rick Losh also lettered both of these cars.
Bruce

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 03:41 PM

There's one ore thing that I need to add about my old cars. My step-dad Les McGriff was a heating and sheetmetal worker, or his used call himself, "a tin bender". He made the hood, battery box, and fuel tank brackets for #48, the hood, decklid, sides, and sunvisor for #93, the hood and decklid for the first #29, and the hood, decklid, hood scoop, and the nacelles to cover where the roll bars come through the back of the body on the second #29. This was some of his best work. Dad passed away in 1997. Pop I miss you. Thanks for all the hours you spent doing this great work for me.

Chris Ertler

lakeside #29

07-14-2009, 03:51 PM

Bruce, I always liked your #16 it was such a cool little car. You always had it looking sharp. Thanks for putting up the photos, they're great. That Chevy was one my best cars, it won a good bit of money for us with Ed driving.

Chris Ertler

parrot

07-14-2009, 05:28 PM

Hey Rick, thanks for those photos. I lived out of state for a few years during that era and am always happy to see what the modifieds looked like then. That's one good looking Chevy. Always appreciated those that had professional numbering/lettering jobs.

rapid30

07-16-2009, 08:49 PM

Here are a few of the greats from 1966 & 1967
Don Carelli in the #90, Don Wilson in the legendary#19, Fritz Wilson in the #14 and from 1966 Harry McCool in the Banner Auto #14

lakeside #29

07-18-2009, 03:03 PM

I thought of a couple of Ed Mailo stories. These weren't reported in the weekly programs.

One night in '74, when Ed Mailo was driving my #29 3-window coupe, during a trophy dash, Ed and Butch Snow were beating on each other pretty significantly. This continued into the pit gate as they came off the track. Eddie Mailo Jr, his twin brother Dick, kid brother Kenny, and I were going a little nuts over what had been going on. Butch pitted at the west end of the pits next to John Pachello. We pitted just east of the where you came off the track next to Roy Jackson. After Ed pulled in, we were all acting like a mob of enraged villagers in a "Frankenstein" movie moving in Butch's direction. Ed stepped in front of us and said " Hold it right there, if you guys are going to act like a bunch of little kids, then you go home right now and play in the sandbox. Otherwise you act like men. I'll take care this". Ed went and talked to Butch. I don't know what he said, he never told us, but he and Butch raced each other clean for the rest of year and we didn't act like angry mobs anymore either.

Another happened in '75 when Mark Billick owned my old car. It was the last night of the season. I was in the pits as a spectator. After the Modified main came of the track Ed drove down to Velmar St Peter's #11 car that Joe Krpan drove, pulled in about 10ft behind it and yelled " get out of the way", wound up Mark's car full throttle, popped the clutch and rammed Velmar's car in rear and pushed it into the pit fence. Ed then jumped out his car walked off. I don't know what really caused this but I think it had to with the availablity of tires or lack thereof, but I'm not certain. He made his point in a big way. I don't what fines if any were assesed.

Chris Ertler

lakeside #29

07-19-2009, 04:27 PM

I have couple more Ed Mailo stories.

Early in the 1974 season we were running on left over Hoosier tires from the previous year. The Hoosiers could be run clear down to the cords. We had gotten to that point. I tried to get new asphalt tires from Larry DeChant, but they didn't have what we ran. I wasn't sure where to go. About that time Ed was in a bowling tournament in Colorado Springs and would be late coming to Lakeside. He made arrangements for Sam Sauer to fill in. When we inspected the car Sunday afternoon 3 of 4 were tires beyond use so we didn't bring out the car. My one chance to have Sam Sauer drive my car and I blew it. Ed didn't say anything about it but to this day I regret not taking the car out that night. I don't have a "Bucket List" but I do Have "Kick Myself List" and thats right on top. The following Monday I went with Terry Boyle and Mike Colitti down to Ray Stringer's shop and talked to Pete Stringer. He got me squared away on where to get tires and told me to come get him at the track and make sure we got it right. He was a big help to us. We followed his instructions to the letter. I'll never forget his help.

Shortly after Pete helped us Ed won our first trophy dash. A couple of weeks later Ed won the trophy dash again and won the fast heat the same night. Before the main little Eddie and Kenny cornered the trophy girl, she was a pretty blonde and if I remember she was Butch Hannah's girlfriend, and asked her if their dad won th main to really lay a real big kiss on him. She agreed.
During that main we were all sitiing on the guard in the pit entrance. Joe James Jr. was to my right and when Ed started picking off cars I think he was more excited the I was. Everytime Ed made a good move I'd get an elbow in my side. When Ed got around Jack Graham In #19 we were all going berserk. When the checkers fell and Ed won we all made a run for the track. They held us back, but we managed to get out before the last car left the track. It must have looked like the obstacle course scene from "Stripes" or the "Running of the bulls", but we made it to finish line screaming all the way. Yes we got our butts chewed out for that stunt but we didn't care. After racing at Lakeside for 20 years it was Ed's first "A" main win. And the trophy girl, oh yeah, she laid it on him real good. Ed won another main a week later, but that first one was sweet.

Chris Ertler

Mitch G.

07-20-2009, 05:53 PM

Geeez Chris, your stories make me wish I'd have gone coupe racing instead of midget racing. You got to be involved with some real legends, sounds like you had a blast.

lakeside #29

07-22-2009, 06:25 PM

Hi Mitch, Yes it was fun and I had the privelege of meeting some amazing people along the way. It was like "six degrees of separation". One introduction here and one there and it snowballed. I couldn't afford a midget and CARC modifieds were pretty inexpensive in those days. I had been a fan of the coupes since I was kid so it was a no-brainer, a coupe it was. I never really seemed to fit in anywhere, but I felt at home at Lakeside. Anyone could play. Two of guys that helped me the most were Ed Mailo and Terry Boyle.

Ed was a former CARC president and lifetime member. He knew everybody and he introduced me to a number of people and opened many doors for me. Before Ed started driving my car we had never won a race. Ed showed me what it felt like to win. Winning is like a narcotic, you never want to stop doing it. He was a gracious winner. I will always have a little bit of Ed Mailo in my heart. Rest in peace Ed.

Terry Boyle was a figure 8 and late model racer. He raced the 8 because he could make more money racing two nights than a lot of late models did in one nght on the oval. Terry gave up figure 8s after Kelly Layne was killed at Englewood. He didn't want to be responsible for hurting someone. He raced late models for a few years but returned to f8s after he blew his late model engine. It made sense, he had two built Y-blocks and a garage full of parts. He won 3 championships. Terry was to me like a great football coach or a drill instructor. He made more introductions and opened still more doors for me. I guess he was a life coach to me. He taught me fabrication, I felt like his apprentice. He started me with little stuff and eventually I was trusted enough to help build roll cages. Terry taught me what it was to be a winner. Because of him I believed in myself. When we walked into the pits we held our heads high because we knew we were the guys to beat. We weren't arrogant just self-confident. It was an amazing feeling to go from a green rookie to winning main events in a couple of years. I owe Terry a debt I can never repay. He even introduced me to my wife, we've been married for 33 years. Thank you Terry.

I had a good ride but I still think it must have been amazing to pull into Belleville or some other out of state track with your own car and not a whole lot of money and face some of the best drivers in the country. It must have been a huge rush. Mitch, you were very lucky to have experienced a thrill like that, I envy you Sir.

Chris Ertler

lakeside #29

07-28-2009, 05:57 PM

I have a couple of Jim Moore stories I'd like to share.

When Jim was driving my #48 at Lakeside in 1972 we had to replace a master cylinder. No big deal but it was a little awkward on a '32 Ford because you had to kind juggle the master cylinder on one side of the center cross member and pedal assembly on the other. Jim was holding the pedals as I was trying to start the bolts throurgh the master cylinder. After fumbling for a couple of minutes I asked Jim to move the pedals a little bit "Jim move it a little to your right, Jim, ah Jim". all I got in reply was "ZZZORP, ZZZORP". I crawled out from under the car and starting laughing my head off. He ws fast asleep. My laughing woke him up and he crawls out saying, " What are you laughing at I wasn't asleep." Sure you weren't . We got the job done and called it a night. We never spoke of it again.

One night in 1973 when Jim was driving my #93, we weren't paying much to the lineup, we thought we were in the next heat. I think we were walking back from the pit concession stand when we heard,"93 are you going?, bring it down NOW! You're on the clock, you've got 3 minutes." Bob Fuschino was the pit manager and you didn't screw with him at all. We scrambled to get Jim in the car. Roy jackson pitted next to us and Butch Wallace next to him. Somebody flagged Butch down as he was leaving his pit and asked him to go out and stall for time. He rolled out the pit gate and killed his engine. Then he made it like he was have trouble restarting it. It gave us enough time to get Jim out the gate. It was a bonehead move on our part but we didn't do it again.

Chris Ertler

Thomas E

08-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Here is '62-'63 photo of Jack Capps and #38. Jack was my best man at our wedding. Jack was a mechanic at Lakewood FordLand.

It was reported that car was a previous #16 that Jerry Malloy had owned and was driven by Shorty Wietzel. #38 had the hinned at the back so it could be lifted up from the frame and roll cage, the hood and radiator shell were the configuration, like the hood on the mid 50's Ford. The steering was in the center with the (as you can see) the steering arm and drag link on the right side. How about that falthead V-8.

Flower pot alert! Did you notice the flower pot on the back of the car? That's right, a dress up deal since Jack's car was sponsored by Lehrer's Flowers, when they had five srores, and they grown since. The flower pot stay didn't stay very there long it was knocked when Jack got caught in traffic during a 10 lap "A" dash and rolled over; the flower pot was moved to a location behind the rear window and eventually before thr season was over the flower pot was completely removed. Over the next 3 seasons the old #38 then #39 car would take a real beating. Jack's last year at Lakeside was under #39, then Jack and some of his friends tried to run a 1956 Ford two-door at CNS without much success. and was sponsored by Don's Auto Body in Littleton.

L to R: Carl, Jack, Jimmy (Jack's dad), unknown, unknown.
The second photo, 38D was sponsored by United Motor Rebuilders on 2nd/3rd Avenue Broadway in Denver, Jack was passing under somebody that was coming out of the north and going into the front shoot guard rail.

larrylass

08-18-2009, 10:35 AM

Here is '62-'63 photo of Jack Capps and #38. Jack was my best man at our wedding. Jack was a mechanic at Lakewood FordLand.

It was reported that car was a previous #16 that Jerry Malloy had owned and was driven by Shorty Wietzel. #38 had the hinned at the back so it could be lifted up from the frame and roll cage, the hood and radiator shell were the configuration, like the hood on the mid 50's Ford. The steering was in the center with the (as you can see) the steering arm and drag link on the right side. How about that falthead V-8.

Flower pot alert! Did you notice the flower pot on the back of the car? That's right, a dress up deal since Jack's car was sponsored by Lehrer's Flowers, when they had five srores, and they grown since. The flower pot stay didn't stay very there long it was knocked when Jack got caught in traffic during a 10 lap "A" dash and rolled over; the flower pot was moved to a location behind the rear window and eventually before thr season was over the flower pot was completely removed. Over the next 3 seasons the old #38 then #39 car would take a real beating. Jack's last year at Lakeside was under #39, then Jack and some of his friends tried to run a 1956 Ford two-door at CNS without much success. and was sponsored by Don's Auto Body in Littleton.

L to R: Carl, Jack, Jimmy (Jack's dad), unknown, unknown.
The second photo, 38D was sponsored by United Motor Rebuilders on 2nd/3rd Avenue Broadway in Denver, Jack was passing somebody coming out of the north and going into the front shoot guard rail.

Jack is my stepbrother and my hero. Guy on the end is jacks father in law
Larry

webby

08-18-2009, 12:26 PM

Jack is my stepbrother and my hero. Guy on the end is jacks father in law
LarryLarry welcome to ARM. I certified your membership so now you can post pictures and stuff if you want to.

Cant wait to hear your racing memories.

Thomas E

08-18-2009, 04:02 PM

Jack is my stepbrother and my hero. Guy on the end is jacks father in law
Larry

Larry . . .

Thanks for posting the info, and welcome to a really fun place - Auto Racing Memories.

Thomas

Thomas E

08-18-2009, 04:55 PM

Jack is my stepbrother and my hero. Guy on the end is jacks father in law
Larry

Larry . . .

Thanks for posting the info, and welcome to a really fun place - Auto Racing Memories.

Thomas

I also remember Jack's medium dark green '57 Ford Retractable hardtop. That is what we left the church in after our (Tom and Violet) wedding.

thpracing

08-26-2009, 02:17 PM

figured it was about time I shared a few Lakeside stories--(that can be printed)---we ran modifieds at Lakeside only 3 yrs--83,84 and 85--we were more known for our closed wheel cars, but---Moose ran the #44 mod in 83 and part of 84--this car was an ex Dan Day mod with Sammy S,s plymouth body on it and in 85 I bought Al Starrs,s Capri from Terry Stubblefield,--ex rick Carrelli----and put the Plymouth body on it after flipping in hotlaps--

First story--mid season in 85, while on the last yellow before the start of the main--I look out the windshield going into turn 1, and see a fellow run out on the racetrack with 6 or 7 feet of tow chain in his hand--we barly missed him, and when we came out of 4, I see Moose running out the pit entrance with the 6 ft handle off the floor jack in hand...don,t know who the fellow was he was chasing, but in the limited lm race, he and moose had an "insident" and had come to our pit to discuss the "problem". He had walked into our pit swinging this chain and stated that he would wrap it around Moose's "fat head". Moose, of coure, rebutted by picking the handle
and proceeded to chase the fella out into the race track--of course, cooler heads prevailed in the end!!!

Anothe time in 85-----I worked 20+ yrs for a local newspaper, and I had a fella who drove a truck for me named Lucky Neuman---Lucky was also a fireman at Lakeside. On this particular Sunday nite, in the pit meeting--we talked about what to do if you had a fire in your car--we were told to get off the racing surface, if possible and get the car as close to the fire people as you could. well, I had a fire that nite, and as I getting off the track on the back chute, unbuckling, etc---I see Lucky and his fire ext. standing about 40 ft away. So I head for him, and he runs away!!I chased him forever, before bailing out, and the other fire personell got there and put the fire out. I was so po'd at Lucky, that nite at work, we filled the cab of his truck with all the extra extinguishers we could find, so he wouldn't forget!!!

I'll post some more when the come to me---kt

schafer1

10-05-2009, 11:43 PM

Dave Hayden drove 2 years 69 and 70 he drove an a #24 in 69 and the old orange and black plymouth #1, he slapped the wall by the west concession stand, held it to the floor, run over my right rear tire went airborn, his left front wheel hit my right front roll bar and he rolled several times landing on his top, they turned him upright put oil in the engine and he finished pretty good, I hit the wall and busted my steering box off and bent the front axle, I got to watch the rest of the main sitting on top of my car in the infield. Harold

JRKracer

10-08-2009, 09:10 AM

Thomas E

10-08-2009, 10:21 AM

I would like to know if anyone remembers the white #5 coupe that raced late 50s or early 60s? The midgets and stock cars ran a few combined shows and I think I remember this car. I think I remember it because of Eddies car. Am I delerious or did this pretty old coupe exist? Who owned it? Who drove it? anyone remember?

You mention Eddie. Eddie? Eddie Mailo? I remember Eddie Mailo driving #28, Tops Coffee Shops sponsored car, I not to sure (you know the years) maybe Elmer Sauer owned #28 when Eddie Mailo drove it. Elmer Sauer #28 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=30) in the 60's.

The white Elmer Sauer #5 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=29) in the 60's

Dennis "Wimpy" Bateman #5, in the 60's - This is the same car that Elmer Sauer had. This car along with Tommy Barton's, Jim Malloy driven, red #1 are real favorites of mine.

JRKracer

10-08-2009, 12:10 PM

You mention Eddie. Eddie? Eddie Mailo? I remember Eddie Mailo driving #28, Tops Coffee Shops sponsored car, I not to sure (you know the years) maybe Elmer Sauer owned #28 when Eddie Mailo drove it. Elmer Sauer #28 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=30) in the 60's.

The white Elmer Sauer #5 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3&pictureid=29) in the 60's

Dennis "Wimpy" Bateman #5, in the 60's - This is the same car that Elmer Sauer had. This car along with Tommy Barton's, Jim Malloy driven, red #1 are real favorites of mine.
I do not remember Eddie Mailo. I was referring to Jacksons #5. Thinking someone painted a coupe just like it for him to drive.That was not the case. You have jogged my memory on the Elmer Sauer. I remember Sammy driving a #28 with Elmer in the #5 or at least I think I do. Elmer tipped Sammy over the 4th turn rail one nite in a heat. My dad helped brake up the scuffle. that followed. Do you remember that insedent? :confused: help an old guy out.

Thomas E

10-08-2009, 12:43 PM

I do not remember Eddie Mailo. I was referring to Jacksons #5. Thinking someone painted a coupe just like it for him to drive.That was not the case. You have jogged my memory on the Elmer Sauer. I remember Sammy driving a #28 with Elmer in the #5 or at least I think I do. Elmer tipped Sammy over the 4th turn rail one nite in a heat. My dad helped brake up the scuffle. that followed. Do you remember that insedent? :confused: help an old guy out.

The white #5 stocker would have been Elmer Sauer's #5, which Eddie Jackson didn't drive.

However Eddie Jackson drove a blue '34 Chevy 3-window coupe for Jim Gordon a few times in the 60's. In the 50's Eddie drove a really sharp looking '32 Ford 5-window coupe #53 for Sammy Chavez at Lakeside.

Eddie Jackson was "Mr. Smooth" when it came to driving a midget.

Here is Eddie Jackson's #5 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111)

JRKracer

10-08-2009, 01:13 PM

Thomas E

10-08-2009, 03:10 PM

There is a picture of Eddie and Sam Chavez in the "Decades Of Daring". I knew he didn't drive the #5 coupe. only as a little boy I ment in my mind that was for him. I really did think Elmer drove it though. Its great to have you guys to keep my memory clear. Thanks.:doh:

True there are times when my thinker is a stinker about who drove what clinking clunker clinker :confused:

The book "Decades of Daring" a book that I have is just fabulous. I also have "The Mighty Midgets" by Jack Fox. The other Bill Hill book is is "One Tough Circuit".

Thomas E

10-08-2009, 04:09 PM

There is a car only of the Sam Chavez' #53, at Lakeside Speedway the that appeared on the now defunct Colorado Racing Memories, and unless somebody here at ARM has the photo, retrieving it in chances is like slim to none. The photo in Decades of Daring on page 166 was also taken at Lakeside, the location is the south turn pit entrance from the track. Notice also the pavement tires. Sam's sponsor for #53 was Denver's Bob Jones Skyland Ford.

Sam was also quite an outstanding figure at Englewood Speedway; Sam also built some other beautiful cars that ran there. Sam opened a auto body and paint shop on West Hampden Avenue, between Federal and Platte River Drive. If memory serves me correct, Sam's family took over 'Sam's Auto Body' after Sam passed away.

Bob Jones Skyland Ford also sponsored the Kenz-Leslie 777 class 'E' streamliner, which ran at Bonneville. I believe 777E was a two flathead engine car at the time; and eventually 777E would carry three flatheads, and set a record of 270 mph for class 'E' streamliners, by this time Kenz-Leslie were sponsored 'Wynn's Friction Proofing' and other Wynn Oil products.

parrot

10-09-2009, 03:00 PM

The white #5 stocker would have been Elmer Sauer's 35, which Eddie Jackson didn't drive.

However Eddie Jackson drove a blue '34 Chevy 3-window coupe for Jim Gordon a few times in the 60's. In the 50's Eddie drove a really sharp looking '32 Ford 5-window coupe #53 for Sammy Chavez at Lakeside.

Eddie Jackson was "Mr. Smooth" when it came to driving a midget.

Here is Eddie Jackson's #5 (http://www.autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111)

Here's a pit gate photo of that Jim Gordon owned #63 Chevy from 1963. It was light blue with gold and black numbers, a really clean and sharp looking car. Program lists both Jim Gordon and Ed Jackson as drivers during different parts of the season. I seem to remember Eugene "Cowboy" Jackson driving it also. Or am I just fuzzy from watching cars turn left all those years! Jim Gordon owned cars numbered '63' from late fifties into the sixties with several different drivers. Not sure I remember that #53 that Ed Jackson drove, but program from 1959 shows the owner as Jim Gordon rather than Sam Chavez. I sorta remembered it being the '32 Vicky left over from '58 when Bruce Ruth drove it, but I could really be wrong on that one. I thought that Mr. Chavez was only an Englewood guy. Please bring me up to date if that's incorrect. Maybe "Professor Coupe" remembers.

Thomas E

10-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Here's a pit gate photo of that Jim Gordon owned #63 Chevy from 1963. It was light blue with gold and black numbers, a really clean and sharp looking car. Program lists both Jim Gordon and Ed Jackson as drivers during different parts of the season. I seem to remember Eugene "Cowboy" Jackson driving it also. Or am I just fuzzy from watching cars turn left all those years! Jim Gordon owned cars numbered '63' from late fifties into the sixties with several different drivers. Not sure I remember that #53 that Ed Jackson drove, but program from 1959 shows the owner as Jim Gordon rather than Sam Chavez. I sorta remembered it being the '32 Vicky left over from '58 when Bruce Ruth drove it, but I could really be wrong on that one. I thought that Mr. Chavez was only an Englewood guy. Please bring me up to date if that's incorrect. Maybe "Professor Coupe" remembers.

That's the car. It was sharp. :checker:

There were several sharp looking Chevys at Lakeside, Tommmy Barton had 2-door sedan #67 that Jim Malloy drove. Then was John Thomas and his blue #10 '32 Chevy 5-window coupe; and of course the was Wayne Stallsworth's orange #52 '34 3-window coupe, Wayne also ran a orange '34 (?) Chevy 2-door sedan, which he also used to run in the open season with a sheet metal style body that everybody called "The Flinstone Special."

John Thomas also drove our (Pat Frazier and myself) at Lakeside Speedway.

Of course the were a couple of other '34-'35 Chevy 5-window coupes that ran at as well, not real contenders but they were there, a couple names that come to mind is Lloyd Reeves and Lloyd Whittenberg (?).

Thomas E

10-09-2009, 04:37 PM

parrot

10-09-2009, 06:16 PM

Here is an all-time favorite of mine, it's Tommy Barton's red #1 that jim Malloy drove. It started out as #9, then somewhere in the mix Dee Hibbs wound up with #9 on maroon '32 Ford 5-window coupe, and Tommy's car came out with #1.

This photo shows the #1 colored out on what appears to brown paper taped to the body, when the numbers were finally painted on they gold leaf outlined in black . This is the omly photo I have seen of this car. It's a shame mor do not surface. It's like the #19 Edsel Jim Malloy drove, I have only seen one photo of it too.

Tommy Barton's red model 'A' bodied #1, on the trailer outside the east pit gate entrance.

Thomas, you have a better memory than I do because I don't remember the gold and black number, but it would have to be better looking than the paper number taped to the door. The silver #9 version was a good looking car also. I too wish other photos of this car would surface.

Talking about Chevys at Lakeside, one not to forget was the white '34 3 window with the oriental #100 that Larry Dechant drove. That was mid fifties. Also, there was a nice looking orange #70 3 window coupe from about '72 I think. There were several more including the 1931-32 models. Some day I'll get the two coupes of Reinhold Naeb and Tony Onorato from 1955 posted on here.

lakeside #29

10-09-2009, 07:30 PM

Thomas and Bill, I've looked through my early stuff and couldn't come up with any more than you have on the #53. I did find it interesting in 1957 the Bruce Ruth #53 listed Leroy Reffell and Wayne Stallsworth as owners. I remember pictures of it on CRM.

I also remember Don Hewit driving a white #5, but Bob Blevins was listed as the owner. I was on my way home from the last afternoon race in '62 when Don or Bob drove out the auto gate, crossed Sheridan, went down 45th Ave., drove down the alley between Zenobia and Sheridan, drove acros 44th Ave, and then parked it at 44th Ave Auto Service. Pretty cool stuff for a 14 year old to witness. I don't know if this was the same #5, but I suspect it may be. It was sponsored by The Chicken King Restaurant in the Lakeside center. I met Don Hewit when Jim Moore was driving for me. He seemed like a good guy.

That #63 Chevy was a good looking car. When talking Chevys you shouldn't leave out Clarence Krieger. He ran Chevys of all different years as #59 and the more customary purple #83.

I also remember the pale blue '32 Chevy 5-window coupe that Ralph Huntsinger drove in about '65. It was owned by Ed Melane and sponsored by Dave and Rich's Par Service.

Another '32 Chevy 5-window was owned by John Shelton and driven by Mike Cropper. It was #65 and raced in about 1970. It's picture is also on this sight with it's wall paper numbers.

Personally I ran a '31 Chevy in '73 and '74. First as the gold #93 shown above
that had been one of Larry DeChant's #100's, this was the one that was pale blue with red oriental style numerals. The blue was about the same shade that was available on '55 Chevy's. Jim Moore drove that year. The next year it had a '31 Chevy 3-window coupe. It was yellow-orange #29 that Ed Mailo drove. It is also shown above.

Do either of you remember the '34 or '35 Chevy 5-window coupe that was one of "Cowboy" Jackson's last cars? It was kind of a metallic maroon that was professionally lettered. It wore his usual #39 and was the nicest car I remember him running. The time frame was '63 to '65.

Chris Ertler-"professor coupe"

lakeside #29

10-09-2009, 11:03 PM

Someone that I forgot was Larry McLaughlin. He drove the blue #15 '33 Chevy that had been Jim Flanagan's. He then purchased the #47 '34 Chevy from Jim as well. It became the white #47 that is pictured in the Lakeside story on this site. It's shown on top of Tom Pryor Jr.'s car, smashed into the flagman's guardrail. Larry's dad Lyle took over driving the #15 after Larry bought the #47. Lyle's #15 was painted gold. Lyle raced for a couple of seasons and retired from driving. Larry built the red #15 '33 Chevy two-door after this. It would have been in 1964. The #47 was sold to Tony Haag. It was run as the red and white #25. Tony's wife Marcy drove it in the Powder Puff races. This car was Bernie Sawin's first ride. After Eddie McCLure bought the ex-Wayne Stallsworth #52 from Jim McIntyre, Larry's brother Leon or "Fuzzy" drove the car until it was retired in '66. Larry filled in as relief driver a few times. John Thomas also drove #52, and he won a "B" dash in it.

The Wayne Stallsworth orange #52 was sold to Jim McIntyre at the end of the '63 season. Mr. Stallsworth, according to his sons, really didn't like the car. It was purchased for $850 or $900. Jim ran the car for a good part of the 1964 season when he sold the car to Eddie McClure. Jim drove for Eddie a couple of times then an old back injury from a past racing accident flared up and driving was taken over by Leon "Fuzzy" McLaughlin. After Eddie sold the car it popped up for sale now and then. Pat Petrie had it for a while then sold it to Lionel Sandoval. I bought it from him in February of 1995.

The car has been reconstructed and general apperance is about how it looked in the '60's. It still has four springs and drum brakes, but the running gear was updated so it doesn't have a 6 anymore. The body and frame have not been cut up and the color was matched to original. Dale Moore copied the original numerals. It has period correct two-piece mag wheels that I bought from John Pachello and one that came from Dean Cummings that was on Bob McDowell's #14.

Chris Ertler "professor coupe"

parrot

10-09-2009, 11:37 PM

Chris, I'm always amazed at how much you remember about the lineage of the Lakeside cars. It's something I've always been interested in and am happy that you've filled in a lot of the details.

Shortly before you restored the #52 I happen to have run across it when the top was painted blue. Paint looked pretty used by then. Was in an apartment house parking lot south of 84th Ave. on Federal. I like what you've done to it. One of my favorite cars, only wish it had run a little better When Mr. Stallsworth first debuted it.

Only photo of "Cowboy" Jackson that I know of was posted on the old CRM. That was the #39, which was his number as shown in the Lakeside programs from 1956-60. I don't remember any of those, but it appears that the #39 became available after Jay Malloy's #39 went to Englewood. Wonder if it was always a Chevy. The early years sponsor was COWBOYS DRIVE-IN, (I'm assuming that was his place) then in '58 with BROADWAY AUTO PARTS as his sponsor. I knew the owner of Broadway Auto Parts as a customer of mine, but that was before I knew of his involvement. Would like to have talked to him about it. When he stopped racing, wasn't Cowboy Jackson part of the infield crew? At an estate auction some years ago, I met some of his relatives, hoped then I could make another contact, but to no avail. Would like to have gotten his story.

One other Chevy comes to mind, a '31 five window coupe from 1963, #12, owned/driven by Jack Williamson. Sort of a meduim brown/bronze color with some nice lettering and pinstriping, some of it in green. The green barrier had been broken with the #42 that Sam Sauer drove so others were beginning to experiment also. Not sure that the color green still didn't ooze a little bad luck. William's #12 had much of the front of the car pushed awfully close to the cockpit one night when it nailed the south wall with a pretty direct hit. Wonder if any of that car was saved.

Oh! Almost forgot, Jerry Malloy Drove a '34 Chevy five window, #3 for Tony Onorato in 1957. Black over white, sat real low in the back. Tony had a few different Chevy stock cars during the fifties. Another one of his shown in the W.A.R.C. yearbook.

lakeside #29

10-10-2009, 12:18 AM

Bill, you're not the first to tell me the #52 was up on Federal. Mike McIntyre, Jim's son followed this car around with intension of buying it. Pat Petrie got it from the guy on Federal. He told me that he had it out behind his parts store on44th Ave. for a couple of years. Do you remember when Pat had Midnight Auto Parts across 44th from the speedway? He dragged it to a CARC swap meet at the track in 1981. I was looking for a car at the time. I looked it over and decided it was way too rough to bother with. Pat sold the car to Lionel Sandoval at the swap meet. I think he had it out once. He had painted it copper with a brush. The engine ran, but it sounded like it was on it's last legs. The car stayed parked for 14 years. Lionel refused to sell it. I ran into a friend at the Tri-State swap meet in '95 who turned me on to it. If you thought it looked bad you should have seen it after it was disassembled. It was going to be a vintage car, but we needed cars at Second Creek so bad the plans changed.

Wayne's sons told me the car was built too light and would not keep a set-up. From my experience with the car I think it's Jinxed. Everyone that's owned the car has had crashes and problems with. it. Just the same she seems content out in the garage. One of my biggest honors was to have her at the Colorado Motorsports Hall of Fame induction ceremony when Wayne went in. Randy Stallsworth drove her at CNS that year on Hall of Fame night.

Chris Ertler "professor coupe"

Thomas E

10-10-2009, 08:28 AM

Thomas, you have a better memory than I do because I don't remember the gold and black number, but it would have to be better looking than the paper number taped to the door. The silver #9 version was a good looking car also. I too wish other photos of this car would surface.

Talking about Chevys at Lakeside, one not to forget was the white '34 3 window with the oriental #100 that Larry Dechant drove. That was mid fifties. Also, there was a nice looking orange #70 3 window coupe from about '72 I think. There were several more including the 1931-32 models. Some day I'll get the two coupes of Reinhold Naeb and Tony Onorato from 1955 posted on here.

Yes about Clearence Kreiger, Larry McClaughin, and Larry Dechant great racers.

In the 60's I was building alot of scale stockers of the Lakeside 1:1 cars. One of the first was Sam Sauer #28, yellow with red numbers and lettering, it was a bit difficult since there was no Ford 'A' bodies at the time; so with some crafty hand work I took AMT's 29 Ford Roadster body, and an AMT 32 Ford 5-window coupe top, cut, trimmed, shaped, grafted, visored, and bingo a Ford model 'A' body.

Next would be Tommy Barton's #1, to which I examined the 1:1 very carefully; by this time Monogram had produced a 1930 Ford model 'A' coupe, so building Tommy's car would be less difficult. I used the AMT '34 Ford truck frame and modified it with the single mid frame cross-member like the '32. Roll bars from AMT's 40 coupe for the basic roll cage, from the same kit the flathead V-8; the 5-wide wheels from AMT's '36 Ford, the wheels were widened and fitted the floater wheel centers from Revell's Mickey Thompson Challenger I; miscellaneous parts from Monogram's midget, and from Monogram's Indy race car the bucket seat, which was resized; other parts were the seat belts from AMT's '53 Studie, the radiator from Revell's '55 Chevy, which was the best proportionally; the gas tank was from one of the dragster kits since #1 didn't use a 5 gallon gerry can.

The #1 car had some neat features that I liked, the chrome plated split front hair-pin radius rods, the extra temp and oil guages on the engine, Belond exhaust headers. The car was truly a fabulous Tommy Barton build.

It was a fun build, and when the car was finsihed, I took it Lakeside to give to Jim, but wasn't there, so I gave it to Jerry to give to Jim. Which is probably long gone by now.

Thomas E

10-10-2009, 08:31 AM

Something else just came to mind, Jim Malloy also drove a Chevy, 33-35 2-door sedan. It had a redish-spackle looking paint job, with white on the inside of the body, it was #67.

:confused:

schafer1

10-13-2009, 12:35 AM

yes and it had floppy sides on it from the door area back for sure!!! Harold

schafer1

10-13-2009, 12:51 AM

It was the other way around, Sam put Elmer in the 5, 6 or 7 rows up in turn 4 grandstands, 1 spectator injured there during hot laps of all things, was in old arm site, I put it there.

JRKracer

10-13-2009, 02:59 PM

It was the other way around, Sam put Elmer in the 5, 6 or 7 rows up in turn 4 grandstands, 1 spectator injured there during hot laps of all things, was in old arm site, I put it there. Thankyou Schafer 1, I am glad that i remember some of it. Do you remember the car numbers they were driving? I remember now as you said it was hot laps.

schafer1

10-13-2009, 09:23 PM

I believe it was the 28, but not absolutly certain of that. Schafer1

carc7

10-14-2009, 04:29 PM

We need to clarify what year that happened. Parrott may remember. Sam drove #28 from 1958 to 1962. Elmer drove #5 most of that time, but in '61, when he was prez, he didn't drive. I can picture Sam putting his own brother into the stands, though. He didn't play favorites if somebody got in his way. The WORST thing you could do, if you were in front of Sam, would be to try to block him, or leave about a foot between you and the car outside of you. Sam would try to stuff his car into that space and worry about the consequences later. He was AWESOME to watch! Unless you were fans of the car on the outside. . . . :bow:

parrot

10-14-2009, 08:43 PM

Something else just came to mind, Jim Malloy also drove a Chevy, 33-35 2-door sedan. It had a redish-spackle looking paint job, with white on the inside of the body, it was #67.

:confused:

Thomas, you remember it well. Wasn't going to win any "Best Looking Car" awards, but it would apparently run! Wayne Stallsworth was really doing well at Englewood Speedway in a similar Chevy Coach. Suppose that was the inspiration? Owner Tom Barton was normally a Ford guy. I was going to school in Pueblo at the time so followed it by newspaper. Newspaper photos/clippings don't always show up well, but here they are anyway. As you can see, Malloy was going for his fourth in a row and was just narrowly beaten by a half car length by Blu Plemmons. That same season, Jim in that #67 set not only a new track record for Lakeside at 12.92 seconds, but it was also certified as a national record for a 1/5 mile track.

carc7

10-15-2009, 09:09 AM

Bill, better check your records again. The boys in the CARC didn't break into the 12's until opening night of 1967. Perhaps you meant 13.92? Paul:idunno:

Thomas E

10-15-2009, 09:58 AM

Bill, better check your records again. The boys in the CARC didn't break into the 12's until opening night of 1967. Perhaps you meant 13.92? Paul:idunno:

This is what I remember about the CARC post season and the (unofficial?) track record and Jim Malloy (http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1172&postcount=2) in September 1963.

JRKracer

10-15-2009, 03:27 PM

I was there that nite. It was one of the last times my dad raced lakeside. He never returned after the 63 season so I know you are correct Thomas. Dad talked about it all the way home. 12.92 seconds was over three tenths faster than the track record which was I think 13.24 by the end of 63. Maybe you all can clarify that but the 12.92 modified lap I witnessed.

parrot

10-15-2009, 07:22 PM

Bill, better check your records again. The boys in the CARC didn't break into the 12's until opening night of 1967. Perhaps you meant 13.92? Paul:idunno:

Nice catch, Paul. The stockers were indeed only timing down into the high 13s in '62, until Jack Thoms set the record for that season during late July at 13.51 according to next year's program. I knew better and should have caught that, BUT, see the newspaper clipping below! Where did that info come from? Something missing there. Couldn't have been one of the stock cars, and whenever the national record for a fifth mile was attributed to Lakeside Speedway, it was one of the midgets that set it. While the '62 program had probably the best cover ever, the rest of it was a little lacking. I only have a couple of them, but they are generic content with inserts for the line-up and car feature. No "TRAK-RUMBL" section as the year before to update fans on race happenings. So, no info on that July 4th feat. Could it have been a Jet Coupe exhibition that July 4th evening? The news clipping doesn't really say and the race results in the paper didn't always show the fast time. Thanks Thomas and JRKracer for your input. But that was 1963. I have a copy of the Jet Coupe Racing Asso. rules, but it isn't dated, and my jet coupe photos are from 1964 when they finally fielded enough to show the fans what it was all about. Mr. Malloy must have had the first of those jet coupe out on that night in '62. But, I'm open for other explanations. Don't you just love trying to solve mysteries?

Thomas E

10-15-2009, 07:50 PM

Like I said in another post about Fritz Wilson . . . It's been a lot of laps and checkered flags, and add in the fumes and noise, and the memory gets a bit like looking through a pair of binoculars backwards.

But what fun it is to unravle, and shakedown the cobwebs of time.

This is truly a really great fun site, and it gets a :checker: :checker: :checker: :checker: :checker:

JRKracer

10-16-2009, 08:48 AM

Nice catch, Paul. The stockers were indeed only timing down into the high 13s in '62, until Jack Thoms set the record for that season during late July at 13.51 according to next year's program. I knew better and should have caught that, BUT, see the newspaper clipping below! Where did that info come from? Something missing there. Couldn't have been one of the stock cars, and whenever the national record for a fifth mile was attributed to Lakeside Speedway, it was one of the midgets that set it. While the '62 program had probably the best cover ever, the rest of it was a little lacking. I only have a couple of them, but they are generic content with inserts for the line-up and car feature. No "TRAK-RUMBL" section as the year before to update fans on race happenings. So, no info on that July 4th feat. Could it have been a Jet Coupe exhibition that July 4th evening? The news clipping doesn't really say and the race results in the paper didn't always show the fast time. Thanks Thomas and JRKracer for your input. But that was 1963. I have a copy of the Jet Coupe Racing Asso. rules, but it isn't dated, and my jet coupe photos are from 1964 when they finally fielded enough to show the fans what it was all about. Mr. Malloy must have had the first of those jet coupe out on that night in '62. But, I'm open for other explanations. Don't you just love trying to solve mysteries? It is a blast trying to remember fact from fiction. The fact remains Jim Malloy set a new world record for a 1/5 mile paved oval in a modified. I was pretty sure it was '63 but at my age years sometimes get confusing. However the rest of my earlier statement stand on my dads coments and such. It was truley an unbeleivable lap.:bow:

JRKracer

10-16-2009, 01:37 PM

Here is another one, Burt Blanot's #50 coupe driven by Herkimer Sneard. Can you beleive he picked an alias that sounded so nerdie. Do you all know who this is?

carc7

10-21-2009, 03:40 AM

Thomas E

10-21-2009, 07:09 AM

Olen McGuire

10-21-2009, 07:28 AM

Hey, you guys! On page 5 of this thread, there is the picture of Jim Malloy's #1 on the trailer outside the Lakeside gate. What I'm interested in now is the #94 sedanski behind it. Does anybody know who's that was? :confused:

Hey carc7 and Thomas E, here's a pic I found in one of Webby's albums. I believe this is the same car but there is not much in the caption to give a clue.

http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1135

Thomas E

10-21-2009, 09:32 AM

Hey carc7 and Thomas E, here's a pic I found in one of Webby's albums. I believe this is the same car but there is not much in the caption to give a clue.

http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1135

Olen . . .

It looks like #94 was at the pit gate, right after #1 had gone into the pit area.

Check out the body work around the right side door, and the added body material below the door edge.

Olen McGuire

10-21-2009, 09:48 AM

Olen . . .

It looks like #94 was at the pit gate, right after #1 had gone into the pit area.

Check out the body work around the right side door, and the added body material below the door edge.

I'm sure it was Thomas, look at the parked cars around it,they are the same cars in both of the pics, and it looks like the #94 was in the same spot as the #1.~Olen

Olen McGuire

10-21-2009, 09:55 AM

Here are both cars together:

http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1135 http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1136

Mitch G.

10-21-2009, 01:02 PM

Joe, was that Jim LaManna?
http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344
From an earlier thread, is this the car Malloy set the record in?

lakeside #29

10-21-2009, 02:16 PM

In 1963 Al Reed was the owner of #94. He had three different drivers, George Butland (Yes the same George Butland that owned CNS), Jerry Roberts, and Mel Keller. If I was betting man I would bet that is the same Mel Keller that was photog are Englewood for several years. It's hard to see in the photos, but Car Corral Inc. was the sponsor.

parrot

10-21-2009, 02:20 PM

Hey, you guys! On page 5 of this thread, there is the picture of Jim Malloy's #1 on the trailer outside the Lakeside gate. What I'm interested in now is the #94 sedanski behind it. Does anybody know who's that was? :confused:

At the time I took the photo, that #94 was driven by none other than the 'wild man of fireworks', George Butland, of GB Auto Salvage, and later the track at Erie, where a holiday fireworks show was not to be missed when he had a punk in his hand. It was like WW II with George on the wrong side of the fox hole! Al Reed listed as the owner. Car was cream with black lettering. Always wondered about that door cut out above the frame. Guessing it came from another track somewhere. (Englewood Speedway?) that car was replaced later in the season with an unpainted model A coupe. Don't remember if the same owner/driver.