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Old 10-19-2012, 11:56 AM   #11
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Can't even imagine how cool it must of been to live and race in that area of the country during those years! To see the likes of most of these guys running together every week had to be incredible. In Colorado we had competitive enough cars/drivers and could run with them most of the time, but we were lucky to have two tracks we could run on each week. We usually had to go out of state to test our cars and abilities consistently against the cream of the crop. Bill, maybe if we had one of these new haulers and someone to drive the rig to the track for us, every week, we would have ventured out more .

Donnie Wilson Jr. and I were chatting the other day and he reminded me of something I had forgotten, most of these guys got paid just to show up at a race track, which made it a lot easier to travel and cover expenses. I know when we had the opportunity to race with Bobby Allison out here in a late model, he was usually paid for an appearance. Let's not forget him when we look at this list, as we all know he could wheel anything he got in pretty well!
Bobby Allison was one of the better all around race drivers in the country. From the IROC series to Indy cars and every type of stock car on every type of track. Also designed and built his own short track cars.
From your other post, i remember Bobby Allison called Mike Millers' Olds Cutlass "the ugliest stock car in America".
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:50 PM   #12
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I guess ugly can be FAST too! Friend of mine Harry Wichman had an Allison chassis, they got it from Jim Wooley/Ronny McDowell, who could never make it work. Harry turned it into a Howe copy?
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #13
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Here's some more pictures. Including Early Allison, Trickle, Wallace and Martin. Don't have a good Mike Miller picture, anyone got one?


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Old 10-20-2012, 01:48 AM   #14
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Mike: I remember that chassis that Harry Wichman and Tony Anderson had one night they got into the wall at Pikes Peak, they were going crazy trying to find a upper ball joint to fit the tublar A frame. After calling Allison come to find out it was an AMC. Once you think about it Allison use to race AMC cars.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:13 PM   #15
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Great pictures Bill, yep that's the #18 box. You have any pictures of the left coast fast guys? I have some Thirdkettle, but don't have any Jimmy Insolo, Hershel McGriff, Ron Esau, Phil Hayse, Joe Ruttman,who else am I missing?
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:44 PM   #16
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Neat pics guys! Here's one of Hershel McGriff from 1974.


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Old 10-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #17
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Great thread Mike511. Thanks for sharing with us! I really dig all those older late models, especially the ones who have driver name-recognition attached to them. ~VB

One of my favorites from that era is #52 Butch Miller who raced a few times at Colorado National Speedway in his ASA Late Model and in a NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series truck. See this link for some cool photos and information:
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:03 PM   #18
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Jerry, Thanks for the picture of Hershel, do you know where it was at? Looks like either a Speedway Engineering or Stock Car Products chassis. They were the chassis of choice for a lot of the left coast guys. As I recall I think Ivan Baldwin built a lot of the chassis on the west coast as well. We had a couple of Speedway Eng. chassis in the mid 70's they worked good, but were heavy. Here's a picture of one we won a track championship with at CSIS in the CO Springs.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:11 PM   #19
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VB, Great link to some of the later ASA stuff, especially the CNS stuff, remember Butch well! Wasn't that about the time Roger was running the 75 car in the series?
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #20
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The picture of the homely Mike Miller Late Model, if I am not mistaken, was made at Wisconsin International Raceway, in Kaukauna. I haven't been there in many years, but in the 70's I saw many guys of these guys run there on a regular Thursday night program. The ARTGO racing series was started because none of the tracks had regular Tuesday night programs, so they started running a series that ran Tuesday night special events. Can you imagine any regional track running on Tuesday of Thursday nights these days?
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